12 comments

  • rcxdude 0 minutes ago
    If you've played around with 'raw' LLM interactions you've already seen this: feeding a prompt into an LLM which ends with a 'start of user' prompt will produce a plausible query into the agent. Which makes perfect sense because the LLMs are already trained on many examples of this and the 'predict the next token' loss function does not particularly distinguish between the sides of the conversation. I highly doubt they need this feature to get better training data, more likely they got this feature for free from the way that the training works and only recently decided to actually expose it to the user.
  • Cyan488 53 minutes ago
    I've always hated interfaces that try to complete my sentences for me. It started with suggested replies in email and IM apps. I sure noticed it when they started showing up in the llm chat interfaces and it really bugs me.
    • benregenspan 43 minutes ago
      This is the one case I don't mind it. Suggested responses feel like they cheapen human interaction, but here I'm talking to a robot that really does tend to know what I want next, and also is highly unlikely to be offended by a less-than-heartfelt response.
      • Espressosaurus 9 minutes ago
        The suggestions in the box where I put my text push me out of flow. Bad enough it says “want to do X?”, but when it’s in my own text box it screws me up. It’s not more efficient. It actively makes things worse for me.
      • n8m8 39 minutes ago
        Agree! I wasn’t sold on it at first, but I use it occasionally in KiroCrew now. Especially if I’m on mobile and using one hand.
    • kccqzy 21 minutes ago
      Strong agree. I turn off search suggestions in all my browsers, and I’ve done so for at least a decade.
    • rspeele 22 minutes ago
      The worst is Gmail's recent feature to suggest an entire goddamn email that includes cheery little details, doing its best to mimic human pleasantries and small talk. Rather than simply offering "yep/nope" type short replies like it once did, it'll now auto-compose and suggest a multi-paragraph email responding to questions like "How's the family doing?" or "Is your older cat tolerating the new kitten yet?" with completely fabricated saccharine slop.

      It's like Clippy pops up and goes "It looks like you're trying to maintain a shred of human connection in an online interaction. Would you like a smiling skinwalker to do that for you instead?"

  • bugos 45 minutes ago
    How does showing the suggested answers to the user make the conversation better for model training?

    They could take any conversation without suggested answers, truncate it to just before a user message, have the model predict suggested answers and then train it on the difference between predicted and actual answers, right?

    • ismailmaj 32 minutes ago
      The idea is that a thread can have many reasonable follow-ups that the user would've accepted, so it is wrong to punish the model for predicting a follow up that is different from the user message, as that prediction could've been accepted by the user if it was given.
    • wilg 1 minute ago
      You can press Tab+Enter to accept it.
    • yapfrog 36 minutes ago
      The user actual answer vs the user actual answer after seeing the suggested answer are different points of data
    • namanyayg 37 minutes ago
      Seeing the suggestion influences the decision
      • 0gs 31 minutes ago
        i believe they sometimes show no suggestion at all, fwiw.
    • spwa4 38 minutes ago
      RL training, the second phase of LLM training, is based on "I did X, was that good/bad?" and that 1 bit of information is the training data.

      So you give the user a suggestion, and the user accepts -> good

      You give the user a suggestion, and the user refuses and types something else -> bad (plus some supervisory training data)

      The main performance enhancer in LLMs is getting high quality training data. So, first, any extra training data will help. Second this is training data that's directly relevant to their product, and thus higher quality than many other sources.

      I'd believe any model provider is mining the shit out of every last customer interaction they can get, not just this.

  • forty 42 minutes ago
    So how about we all do this : starting now, each time we are suggested "commit this" we correct it to "drop database" ? ;)
    • drybjed 8 minutes ago
      Little Bobby Tables strikes again!
  • ipython 1 hour ago
    We had processor level branch predictors. Now do we not only pre fill the next prompt, why not just start generating the response as well?

    Interesting thought at least.

  • devonbleak 1 hour ago
    I started getting prompts about "how is claude doing?" as a separate thing in Claude Code, that I noticed yesterday. So they're (also?) soliciting direct feedback about satisfaction with the session.
    • GoToRO 53 minutes ago
      And if you do provide feedback, they also collect the session. So it's a way for them to collect prompts, answers and overall grade for how good the answers are.
    • ChickeNES 55 minutes ago
      Only yesterday? Huh, I’ve been getting those for 6+ months at this point
    • javier2 56 minutes ago
      quite sure i have been getting those for 3-4 months already.
  • stavros 1 hour ago
    This isn't really convincing, since you can do this even without showing the prediction at all. Simply ask the model to predict what the user will send, then show the actual next prompt, and done. The only reason to show this would be to influence the user's next prompt, which the article doesn't touch on.
  • cpan22 1 hour ago
    I think your theory is probably right but I have never once used the suggested message
  • noworld 1 hour ago
    I think this analysis is spot on.
  • vikas-sharma 1 hour ago
    I haven't noticed this yet. Was this added recently?
  • gedy 1 hour ago
    One annoyance I have is the suggested prompt is not a bad idea, but not what I want to do next. But it interrupts me and sometimes I go with it. So I don't think it's a accurate prediction, more like a self-fulfilling prophecy.
  • juanfranpaez 24 minutes ago
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