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  • asveikau 1 hour ago
    I had no idea what this is, Google said:

    > Autistici/Inventati provides internet support to activists and collectives coming from the world of grassroot and social movements.

    US administration says:

    > https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616

    > ... an Italy-based entity that supplies specialized digital architecture, tools, and services for Antifa cells and other violent far-left extremists ...

    • rithdmc 1 hour ago
    • MrGilbert 1 hour ago
      > Currently we face three major types of terror groups:

      > • Narcoterrorists and Transnational Gangs

      > • Legacy Islamist Terrorists

      > • Violent Left-Wing Extremists, including Anarchists and Anti-Fascist

      It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.

      From 2020:

      > First, right-wing attacks and plots accounted for the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994. In particular, they made up a large percentage of incidents in the 1990s and 2010s. Second, the total number of right-wing attacks and plots has grown substantially during the past six years.

      Source: https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-u...

      • icase 34 minutes ago
        “legacy” islamist terrorists?

        as if a violent ideology that’s been around for centuries simply gets deprecated like IE6?

        if only it were that easy.

        • genxy 6 minutes ago
          Because the non-legacy Religious Terrorists get invited to the whitehouse. What makes them legacy is not sucking up to Trump.
        • redsocksfan45 21 minutes ago
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        • aaa_aaa 12 minutes ago
          "terrorism" is a racket. Also, it is nothing compared to what US and others did to other countries. Yes, scale matters. So please.
          • icase 10 minutes ago
            omg whataboutism is so fucking lame
      • asveikau 25 minutes ago
        Yes, anyone who has been paying attention knows that this administration has been designating people who disagree with them politically or socially, or in some cases groups like antifa that don't really exist, as terrorist groups. This substantially escalated with nspm7 as reported by Ken Klippenstein.
      • ochoseis 32 minutes ago
        CSIS has an updated report. While right wing extremism was more prevalent in the decade up to 2024, it dropped significantly in 2025 for unclear reasons.

        https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-terrorism-and-politi...

        • boesboes 25 minutes ago
          They all be working for ICE
      • tescreal 1 hour ago
        I would read that as an endorsement by omission. Maybe too conspiratorial? I'll accept criticism, but it definitely smells like implication (especially given the hard right-turn ICE took in their choices of "apparel").
      • sophacles 50 minutes ago
        It's also worth noting that the idea of Antifa as any sort of organization is 100% shitty fiction.

        It's a fucking hashtag (and the spiritual predecessors of hastags like email label, etc for the years prior). Anyone organizing or "promoting" an event (demonstration, protest, whatever) would label it antifa if they felt that the people who were strongly opposed to fascism would find it worthwhile to support the cause.

        Yes there are people out there who primarily focused on supporting anything that opposed fascism, and weirdly some of them know each other. (Strange things happen when people congregate, some of them talk to each other and even form friendships... shocking I know).

        The idea that its anything other than people in a scene knowing each other is just as dumb as people saying OSS is a terrorist organization because Anonymous released loic under a public domain license.

        • philipallstar 30 minutes ago
          Yes, and Isis is a bunch of independent cells held together by an ideology too.
          • rithdmc 24 minutes ago
            Is Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness a bunch of independent cells held together by an ideology... or is it just an ideology?
          • sophacles 16 minutes ago
            So is Christianity and the GOP. What's your point?
      • TacticalCoder 33 minutes ago
        > It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.

        OK, let's go 30 years back and see how many terror attacks, worldwide, were from islamists: it's something like 95% of all terror attacks.

        Then we take all the drug related killings (in which drug users have a responsibility btw: I don't care if they should be legal or not, they're not and you're evil if you support in any way a system that sells fentanyl to teenagers)...

        The we take the far-left killings like the assassination of the (maybe despicable) Charlie Kirk and the Trump assassination attempts (with a 's') and Luigi Mangione killing a CEO...

        And it's kinda, sorta, indeed not a world where "far-right" terrorism ain't that much of a big thing.

        It's been a long time we have seen true far-right, like Mussolini style fascists, doing anything.

        And, arguably, the nationalists who think they defend "the people" of their country, are more like nazis (aka national socialists) than actual fascits (to me portraying national socialists and the "one car for everyone" / the car of the people "volkswagen" as purely a far-right party when there were clearly socialists tendencies in nazism --especially at the beginning when Hitler got elected on many "socialist" promises, and that's not open for discussion-- is the biggest success ever of socialism).

        Leftists somehow tried to dissociate themselves from all the socialist promises that got Hitler elected.

        But not everybody got fooled.

        I know what those who killed Charlie Kirk and the UnitedHealthcare CEO are made of.

        And I certainly know what those who slaughtered 300 people at the Bataclan and 100 times that in january 2026 in Iran are made of.

        Get your priorities right mate: otherwise I know what you are made of too.

        • sigmar 9 minutes ago
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Don...

          what evidence is there that this registered republican was "far left"?

          • Joker_vD 3 minutes ago
            Well, there is apparently no evidence that he was "far right" either.

                So far, investigators haven't found any evidence on social media or other
                writings by Crooks that might help identify his motive for the attempted
                assassination, law enforcement officials say... And a review of public
                records suggests he may have had divergent political leanings, with Crooks
                registering to vote as a Republican but making a small donation to a
                Democratic-leaning group.
        • watutalkinbout 4 minutes ago
          Mate.
        • rightbyte 18 minutes ago
          > The we take the far-left killings like the assassination of the (maybe despicable) Charlie Kirk and the Trump assassination attempts (with a 's') and Luigi Mangione killing a CEO...

          I have no recollection of any of those perps being left-wing. Apolitical and centrists.

      • kolektiv 34 minutes ago
        Also wild that they're willing to just put "Anti-Fascist" in there as the enemy - if you're anti-anti-fascist, that's kind of hiding in plain sight, as if they weren't already. Simply staggering to think that in such a short space of time a country can head off the rails quite so much, but it should be instructional - whenever you look at history, the collapse often happens slowly - and then all at once...
        • philipallstar 30 minutes ago
          Yes, and in this case it's because idiots decided anyone they disagreed with was a fascist, and hey, guess what? It's fine to hit a fascist with a wrench, so let's do it.

          The degradation of real terms such as "fascist", "racist", "misogynist", or even "rape" means, as predicted, that no one trusts the use of them any more. They only work with the full force that they should carry if they are used correctly.

      • philipallstar 32 minutes ago
        > It's wild that we've hit a point where the existence of Right-Wing Extremists is simply denied.

        It's not denied; it's just that anyone vaguely right wing who kills is classified as a right wing terror attack. Right wing terror is constantly talked about, so it may appear bigger than it is.

        Whereas in terms of groups or common causes, the three listed are much bigger. Why is it healthcare CEOs, presidents and campus debaters all be shot at (and killed in 2 of those cases) and the shootings be celebrated by so many on the left, and well into the mainstream? There's no right wing equivalent any more.

        • watutalkinbout 13 minutes ago
          "it may appear bigger than it is"

          Except that it's by far the largest in the US based on the data.

      • brians 1 hour ago
        Those are largely domestic, though some have quiet foreign support. And there’s no law for designating domestic groups as terrorist. The FBI does a ton of work here though
        • MrGilbert 1 hour ago
          Not sure I understand you correctly, but in the "United States Counterterrorism Strategy 2026", they are explicitly called out as being domestic:

          > Additionally, we recognize that a new type of domestic terrorism has emerged, driven by violent extremists who have adopted ideologies antithetical to freedom and the American way of life.

          Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026-U...

        • BryantD 18 minutes ago
          Although I certainly don't blame anyone for thinking of right-wing terrorism as primarily domestic, some degree of research will demonstrate the multi-national nature of the problem.

          We can start with The Base, founded by Rinaldo Nazzaro in 2018, the year after he moved to Russia and obtained Russian citizenship. Nazzaro is a longtime advocate of Harold Covington's Northwest Front concept -- an all-white state in the Pacific Northwest. Nazzaro purchased properties in Washington state for training purposes. The Base was active in Canada, the US, and Europe -- members were arrested for planning a mass shooting in Virginia at a gun rights rally in 2020, for planning to vandalize synagogues in Wisconsin and Michigan, and the Ukranian Base cell claimed responsibility for assassinating an intelligence officer in Ukraine's Security Service. Nazzaro remains in Russia, safe from prosecution.

          In 2020, Robert Rundo started the Active club network, which promotes mixed martial arts as preparation for a race war. Rundo also moved to Europe to avoid US prosecution. (He has since been extradited from Romania.) These clubs have absorbed a number of former Atomwaffen Division members. Active clubs have not gone as far into terrorism as The Base, but have played a role in a number of racially-motivated riots in the British Isles and there's some evidence of terrorist-flavored plotting among specific Active club instances.

          (It's worth noting that these clubs are decentralized in a similar fashion to antifa groups; Rundo is not a central authority, although he's more of a central figure than anyone who considers themselves antifa. But I want to be consistent.)

          Speaking of Atomwaffen -- I don't consider them as much of a threat as they were prior to 2020. However, since we're talking about foreign coordination and support, it's worth noting that they emerged from the Iron March website, which was run by Alisher Mukhitdinov, who is believed to be an Uzbek living in Russia. Mukhitdinov claims he was recruited by Aleksandr Dugin. In any case, Atomwaffen was tightly coordinating with Sonnenkrieg Division in the UK and Feuerkrieg Division in Europe. And as it faded, some members went to Europe, seeing the Ukraine (and the Azov Brigade) as a potential training ground/sanctuary.

          The accelerationist white supremacist movement is fundamentally international.

    • TacticalCoder 45 minutes ago
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      • foul 44 minutes ago
        >free individuals

        lol

  • poetaster 1 minute ago
    Is it just dark on the NA side if the pond? I still see it just fine...
  • judiisis 1 hour ago
    basically they provide self hosted foss encrypted services which the US Govt didnt like https://www.inventati.org/services/
    • sneurlax 13 minutes ago
      both of their .orgs seem to be down
  • swed420 1 hour ago
    Related discussion

    U.S. Sanctions Against the a/I Collective

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49477854

    US sanctions Italian hosting provider Autistici Inventati

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49451343

    US Government designates host of noblogs.org a "global terrorist"

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49464391

  • nazgulsenpai 24 minutes ago
    We are still living in the shadow of the world the Patriot Act created and continues to shape.

    The most consequential legislation of my lifetime.

  • RobotToaster 1 hour ago
    What do we do now it's becoming clear that ICANN can't be trusted?
    • progval 1 hour ago
      ICANN can't suspend second-level domains, this is up to the owner of .org (the Public Interest Registry) or the registrar of the particular domain (Gandi).
      • N19PEDL2 33 minutes ago
        Maybe they can now move to a .it subdomain, since they are not designated as a terrorist organization in Italy.
        • netrap 1 minute ago
          That makes the most sense to me. Although, I don't know if .org is subject to US law specifically? Is it?
    • iuhoiuh 47 minutes ago
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  • K0balt 1 hour ago
    lol. In case you didn’t notice, dissent is terrorism, failure to kiss the ring is treason, and if you want to play in the US market there are some cryptocurrency purchases you might want to do, as a hedge against unfavorable tariffs. Also, for only 100KUSD you can join the official US insider trading chat.

    I wish any of this was an exaggeration.

    • stackbutterflow 21 minutes ago
      I wonder if there are Americans on hn who already self censor their criticism of the Trump regime because they're scared of reprisals.
    • iwontberude 1 hour ago
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  • ChrisArchitect 1 hour ago
  • mikojan 1 hour ago
    Everybody and their grandmother uses their services. Are you organizing a non-profit rehearsal space? Create a mailing list there.

    This is grim.

    I guess this only works because those are foreign servers so freedom of speech does not apply but Italy is doing their bidding?

  • idiotsecant 1 hour ago
    So the US government now owns all emails coming into accounts on this domain.
    • jabroni_salad 15 minutes ago
      this domain doesnt have an mx record at all
  • SSLy 1 hour ago
    whoo hooo, I've had an unused account there. guess I'm on yet another list, woe betide me.
  • idiotsecant 1 hour ago
    Once again, the crime is providing encrypted email accounts, chat and video conferencing.

    Uncle Sam really, really, really wants to terrify as many providers are possible into letting them peek into your personal correspondence.

    This is why decentralized end to end encryption methods are so important

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    • 15feetOfclay 1 hour ago
      Ahem... are you joking?
      • deadbunny 53 minutes ago
        They're LARPing, must have escaped from Twitter
  • rambojohnson 1 hour ago
    the US is a fucking joke.

    being anti-fascist is extremist? since when?

    • dayofthedaleks 2 minutes ago
      Ever since the U.S. went fash, provably and demonstrably. This is an example of federal apparatus being used to delineate sides for cases in Oregon and Texas.
    • whatthesmack 21 minutes ago
      > the US is a fucking joke.

      > being anti-fascist is extremist? since when?

      The joke is the people performing the acts of fascists that then claim to be anti-fascist. They simply do not recognize or acknowledge their own fascist, mob-like behavior, but apply the label to all of their enemies. They've read and heeded Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" to perfection. The US is one of the only countries taking the Antifa threat to civilization seriously.

    • iuhoiuh 58 minutes ago
      the far-left calls everyone 'fascists'
      • boesboes 24 minutes ago
        yeah, those fuckign terrorists! smh
        • whatthesmack 17 minutes ago
          You can't just shrug off a whole host of threatening and criminal behavior because you sympathize with the cause of the terrorists committing the acts.

          Antifa has caused a lot of damage to society, which is why they are considered a Domestic Terrorist Organization in the US and are being actively pushed back against now that their billionaire-backed funding networks have been identified.

  • lifestyleguru 36 minutes ago
    American lunatics fighting with Italian punkabbestia on a yacht, all surrounded with confetti from Russian money. You guys want some prosecco?
    • kome 21 minutes ago
      wow. your comment is also lunacy, tbh. autistici runs at a small deficit and is a passion project. so they are “yacht people” because they have some computers, a godforsaken server somewhere, and maybe an iphone? and where the hell is this russian money supposed to be?

      your fantasy-world ideas do not help anyone grasp the gravity of the situation. they only show that you have zero facts and are filling the gap with random cartoon nonsense.

      but sure, censorship of extremely small groups is becoming the norm, and you are here celebrating because the targets are communists, not your kind. where do you think this will lead?