Wind Knitting Factory

(merelkarhof.nl)

245 points | by bschne 1 day ago

17 comments

  • metalman 1 day ago
    I spent a couple of days building staircases inside a rope factory, kinda thing that I would just add a glass wall and put in a coffee shop, it's an odd thing to watch something solid materialise out of a intricate repetitive motion that happens ever so slightly faster that you can track. different rig than the wind knitter but both I think are clasified as braiders
  • MikeTheGreat 1 day ago
    I'm curious about how you 'harvest' a section of tube without it unraveling.

    Maybe cut it around, remove the little bits of yarn, then unravel a ways on purpose, and knit the unraveled yarn through the edge like a normal bind-off?

    • MandieD 1 day ago
      Thread a flexible needle (usually called "circular") or a wire through a full row near the cut, unravel the remaining rows, then take a fine crochet hook to chain the loops together.

      Or just hem it, but that doesn't look like what she does.

    • ethan_smith 1 day ago
      Circular knitting typically uses a technique called "grafting" or "Kitchener stitch" to close tubes seamlessly without unraveling - you'd temporarily secure stitches on holders, cut one strand, then use a tapestry needle to mimic the path of the yarn through the live stitches.
    • bregma 1 day ago
      Take a look at the next T-shirt you put on. Or socks.
      • MikeTheGreat 17 hours ago
        Can I ask you to expand on this?

        I've never worn knit socks, and I don't think I've ever seen a knit T-shirt, so I'm not quite sure what to look for (or at) :)

        • mrob 15 hours ago
          I don't think I've ever seen socks or T-shirts that weren't (machine) knitted. Knitting produces more stretchy fabric than weaving so it's better for garments that fit closely.
        • Wingman4l7 15 hours ago
          You've likely worn knit socks and T-shirts -- they're machine-knit. A lot of clothing is knit, not woven. Fabric does not have to use big and chunky threads to be knit; the loops can be quite a small gauge in size.
          • MikeTheGreat 7 hours ago
            Ah - that makes sense.

            I was thinking of hand-knit clothing, which (as you say) tends to be big enough and chunky enough that you can see the stitches.

            TIL - thanks :)

    • imzadi 1 day ago
      They might be sergering the edges.
  • data-ottawa 1 day ago
    This is delightfully weird, I love projects like this.
  • Luc 1 day ago
  • jkhalaj 1 day ago
    Knitting is programming. Read a knitting pattern and it's low level programming - knitters do not get enough credit.
  • dmkolobov 1 day ago
    Beautiful work.

    As an off-topic observation, whenever I see something like the phrase “operates between the public and the private space” I immediately think: this person definitely went to art school :P

    • ragazzina 23 hours ago
      I'm surprised it doesn't also operate at the intersection of art and technology.
    • myself248 23 hours ago
      International Art English is a well-documented, and mercilessly mocked (and deservedly so!) phenomenon, which thrusts the creator's image of self into the spotlight and questions assumptions about their ability for self-expression at the intersection of rational thought and plain language, through pervasive use of meaningless and tortured constructions, abject puffery, and run-on sentences.
    • asimovfan 23 hours ago
      boundary betweeen public and private space is an elementary object of social studies in general
  • stickfigure 1 day ago
    Oh that device should look familiar to fans of Hand Tool Rescue.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOCNaHMo2EI

  • socki 1 day ago
    Is this something that can be seen in person?
  • lawlessone 18 hours ago
    The page for buying a machine doesn't work :(

    Not that i could likely afford it.

  • boffinAudio 1 day ago
    This is a great idea .. I wonder if it can be adapted to using recycled plastic threads, so that a fleet of these could be deployed into the ocean to recover plastics, turn them into nets, and use those nets to .. recover more plastic?

    If I were shipwrecked on a tropical island, I'd make it my daily task to work out how to build something like this, into which I can feed plastic bottles, and get a brand new material that could be used for more construction.

    Sure, knitting scarves is neat. But knitting a weather-proof shelter? Hell yeah!

    • jnovacho 1 day ago
      To recycle plastic, the only viable way is to melt it. And the plastic must be very clean before it can be remelted. If it even is a kind of plastic that can be reheated multiple times. I am afraid the short answer is no.
      • boffinAudio 1 day ago
        In the context of ocean plastic recovery/harvesting, I don't know that the purity is all that important - the more important factor is, collection. Being able to take plastic bottles and turn them into a kind of string, for example, seems more viable - if a hopper could be designed which takes a plastic bottle, rotates it around a stripping knife, and the output is a long twine - this could then be fed into the knitting machine.

        I imagine this rube-goldberg'esque strandebeest-like contraption sitting out there harvesting wind and waves, slowly turning every bottle it gorges on into a finely woven matte of materials .. maybe even reproducing itself, who knows ..

        EDIT: I asked Grok to design a self-replicating ocean weaver, and I have to say .. it seems like a viable idea to me. Perhaps we will see this kind of plastic harvesting in the near future .. at the very least, were I to be stranded on a plastic-laden island, I'm pretty sure I could work out a way to build a raft with sails ..

        • Cthulhu_ 1 day ago
          There's some (fairly simple) devices in use or that you can make yourself to turn bottles into a kind of thread, but it's very hard to automate because bottles will be different in shape and condition.

          But as you say, turning them into something else isn't the critical part, collecting them in the first place is. The most important thing is taking them out of the environment so they stop breaking down into microplastics and the like.

          Personally I think all these creative solutions for reusing plastics aren't so important. Collect it and put it in a giant landfill like an old open mine, bury it and forget about it until a future generation invents an efficient way to recycle it, then mine it like a resource.

        • lawlessone 18 hours ago
          > I asked Grok

          I asked Grok and it said you didn't ask it.

  • jbaber 16 hours ago
    Now we just need wind spinning, wind carding, wind shearing, and wind husbandry. Lots of vertical opportunity.
  • gcanyon 1 day ago
    I'm very disappointed there doesn't appear to be a Tom Scott video on this.
    • burnt-resistor 1 day ago
      This! That would be awesomesauce. I haven't seen his videos in a while.
      • nativeit 1 day ago
        He retired the format a few years ago. Now he just does game shows and random projects with his friends, which...fair enough, that's what I'd do with a pile of passive YouTube income.
        • Pyrodogg 1 day ago
          He recently did one of those "this video will delete in X hours" bits where he asked people to email him different places, people, things to check out.

          He very, very clearly has no interest in returning to weekly videos on-location; more deeper dives or just something different.

        • voidUpdate 1 day ago
          He recently put out a video asking for new submissions, however they are uk only, and AFAIK this is in the netherlands, sadly
      • tiagod 1 day ago
  • throwaway474843 1 day ago
    I’d like to see a video of the full process.

    The reason is that the scarves in the online shop look very tight and possibly created by something else. There is nothing that would prevent the seller from doing this legitimately if that is the case, because Wind Knitting Factory may just be the brand.

    I’d like to think the scarves in their online shop are fully knitted by the wind, though.

    • codingdave 23 hours ago
      The circular sock knitting machines, as pictured on the site, absolutely make high quality socks. My wife has a niche business teaching classes on how to use those machines, making and selling socks, etc.

      The part that would be missing from a wind-powered solution is the actual shaping of the sock. She spends a lot of time as she works futzing with the hooks on the machine to create the heel, toe, ribbing, etc. I'm not an expert in what she does, but I see enough to know that if this is just a turbine spinning the machine, you'd get a uniform tube, which would then be post-processed into individual fairly shapeless socks. Hand-crafting would shape the socks better, but the basic tubes are high quality even if unshaped.

      There is also definitely a niche-within-a-niche of people who work on these machines coming up with all kinds of non-sock applications for well-knit tubes of fiber. Scarves are an obvious one, but re-working different sizes of tubes to create stuffed animals is one of the more fun ones.

    • roxolotl 1 day ago
      I assume there’s gearing to improve consistency.

      There’s definitively post processing though as it’s knitting a tube. “Occasionally the knitwear gets ‘harvested’ and transformed into scarves.”

      • Schattenbaer 23 hours ago
        Yes it looks like it is felted afterwards
    • pamby 1 day ago
      “Every scarf gets a label which tells you the time and the date on which the wind made the scarf.”

      I think it’s real.

  • MikeTheGreat 1 day ago
    Is anyone else disappointed that you can't buy the wind-knitting device itself, only scarves knitted from the device? :)
    • imzadi 1 day ago
      I doubt it would be difficult to make. You can buy the knitting machine on amazon. They usually have a handle you can crank unless it is electric. Just attach a turbine to the handle.
      • rkagerer 1 day ago
        I missed the (obvious) context and imagined an aircraft engine turbine attached.
    • mhb 22 hours ago
      I'd be surprised/impressed if the knitting machine itself was a DIY project.

      I know this is art, but to be overly reductive, it's the same as buying your electricity from a wind farm and using it to power your knitting machine.

    • ashurov 1 day ago
      you could, but the (original) website is from 2009...so probably not enough interest to keep that up. The old link is dead: https://windknittingfactory.bigcartel.com/
    • c22 1 day ago
      I'm disappointed it doesn't make socks.
    • radpanda 1 day ago
      Every HNer knows your startup needs to maintain a moat /s
  • dibora13 22 hours ago
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